I'm naturally high waisted so any jean that fits "at the waist" typically fits at least 2 inches below my waist. I have always thought that was "normal " for a fits at the waist jean until I discovered your super high waist jean. It firs at my waist and I absolutely love them. The only thing I would suggest would be to order a size smaller. I ordered a 30 inch waist which is typical for the regular fits at the waist jean but considering they sit lower then my waist I'll order them in a 29 inch next time. I have been sold on Fran Denim Jeans for a couple of years!